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  1. Burner

    Adam vs Eve, in your own opinion, who do you think was actually the first to be created?

    How can you have insight into anythIng past your thoughts or abilities? Can you think more than you are currently or ever will think? What does it mean to be beyond your doubts? More doubtful? Doubtless? Or beyond Irrationality? Most irrational? These are your words expounded but they nebulous...
  2. Burner

    Adam vs Eve, in your own opinion, who do you think was actually the first to be created?

    I have liked this statement because many theists especially Christians say it. It sounds profound but is meaningless. Do you believe the world is balancing on the back of a tortoise? If you dont, then it takes a lot of faith to believe it isnt. See how silly that sounds? I dont know what this...
  3. Burner

    Adam vs Eve, in your own opinion, who do you think was actually the first to be created?

    If logic doesnt count, then that by definition makes your faith and belief illogical and irrational.
  4. Burner

    Adam vs Eve, in your own opinion, who do you think was actually the first to be created?

    It would depend what ground they were referring to. In nairobi? No. It Antarctica? Yes.
  5. Burner

    Adam vs Eve, in your own opinion, who do you think was actually the first to be created?

    This has nothing to do with my question. You made the claim that the book is holy and thus true. So im asking on what justification you make this claim for it to be logical.
  6. Burner

    Adam vs Eve, in your own opinion, who do you think was actually the first to be created?

    I question the entire philosophy of theism. However, my simple questions concerning our chat as well as with @Aviator here is this: If your contention is that the bible is a holy book and thus its contents are true, how and why do you discount all other holy books (for various religions) as...
  7. Burner

    Adam vs Eve, in your own opinion, who do you think was actually the first to be created?

    I would agree faith is illogical if thats where you are going. Faith is the excuse people give when they dont have a good reason for belief in something. Answering the question on why the bible shouldnt be held up to scrutiny and skepticism on the basis that it is "holy" is a piss poor excuse.
  8. Burner

    Adam vs Eve, in your own opinion, who do you think was actually the first to be created?

    Define this transcendence ?how do you know its the holy ghost? After all, there are plenty of people and preachers who will claim the same inspiration. Some are fakes, so how do we discern the real from the fakes and further more how do we know its the holy spirit? And you still havent answered...
  9. Burner

    Adam vs Eve, in your own opinion, who do you think was actually the first to be created?

    There are other holy books. Does that mean you should accept what they say as truth too? You havent answered my question. How will you know the helper is getting it right or wrong if you need help to understand it? And how can you know that the helper is being inspired by the Holy spirit?
  10. Burner

    Adam vs Eve, in your own opinion, who do you think was actually the first to be created?

    Does this mean you are incapable of understanding the bible on your own? If you can understand, how do you tell if you are correct or wrong? If not, How do you tell one who is under the guidance and one who is not since you lack the understanding?
  11. Burner

    Adam vs Eve, in your own opinion, who do you think was actually the first to be created?

    If you speak of context then that means there are other factors you consider when it comes to believe them. This negates your earlier statement that you would just believe a book just because it is religious. So, what contexts would you believe or disbelieve in a religious book? And what...
  12. Burner

    Adam vs Eve, in your own opinion, who do you think was actually the first to be created?

    I wouldnt doubt that @Aviator has read (or tried to) them all. But you are right in that my follow up questions would have shown the paradox of their belief system
  13. Burner

    Adam vs Eve, in your own opinion, who do you think was actually the first to be created?

    So you believe all of them, and everything they say as being true?
  14. Burner

    Adam vs Eve, in your own opinion, who do you think was actually the first to be created?

    By that reasoning you should wholeheartedly believe all religious books. And if @Da Vinci wrote a religious book claiming he is the one true god, you should believe that too.
  15. Burner

    Adam vs Eve, in your own opinion, who do you think was actually the first to be created?

    Why? You dont apply the same standard for any other material you read, why the special exemption for the bible?
  16. Burner

    Adam vs Eve, in your own opinion, who do you think was actually the first to be created?

    The bible says god created adam first. Genesis 2:7
  17. Burner

    Lesbians

    @Okiya umenyimwa na lesbian?
  18. Burner

    Mombasa road Traffic

    Yesterday was insane. I was in kitengela and left at 1:30pm..i got to syokimau at about 3:15pm. I knew people were in for it that evening.
  19. Burner

    Déjà Vu

    Maybe i put it badly. https://tracyruscetti.com/ There is a button for her cv there. Some of the research papers have links. Others you may have to search.
  20. Burner

    Déjà Vu

    While i can agree that neither of them has given evidence to support the claims, i still refuse that they are speaking from the same level. We have established one that at least one of parties is clearly qualified to speak about the subject matter. And as you have said "The only thing that...
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