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  1. Burner

    Adam vs Eve, in your own opinion, who do you think was actually the first to be created?

    Show me a god exists first then i can know if i'd be optimistic about it being in my life
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    Adam vs Eve, in your own opinion, who do you think was actually the first to be created?

    This is a false equivalency to what we are discussing. And yes, the empirical evidence exists. We can tell if the child is crying, we can ask them on a scale of 1 to 10 how much the pain is, is the child bleeding or has a welt, the trauma of the child in their approach to you thereafter. There...
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    Adam vs Eve, in your own opinion, who do you think was actually the first to be created?

    Optimistic about what? Optimism is a hope for an outcome. But you would have to know that one of the outcomes is possible. If you are asking if im optimistic about the existence/nonexistence of a god, you have to show me that there is a god first.
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    Adam vs Eve, in your own opinion, who do you think was actually the first to be created?

    Lets be clear what you mean by faith. Do you mean belief in the absence of evidence? Just having a feeling? What?
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    Adam vs Eve, in your own opinion, who do you think was actually the first to be created?

    Im dont have anything in mind about a god. Im not the one claiming that a god does or doesnt exist. You are. That is why i am asking you to define the god you believe in and how you have determined that god exists.
  6. Burner

    Adam vs Eve, in your own opinion, who do you think was actually the first to be created?

    This is not what i said. Its pretty much the opposite. Ok. So how do you come up with a god from this?
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    Adam vs Eve, in your own opinion, who do you think was actually the first to be created?

    Fine. You still havent told me what methods you use?
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    Adam vs Eve, in your own opinion, who do you think was actually the first to be created?

    I see they are constructs we(humans) have labelled to make sense of the world we live in e.g Time. Some are abstract concepts i Dont think exist outside the physical presence of a mind. E.g knowledge However i do not see how you take the leap of taking these things together and coming up with a...
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    Adam vs Eve, in your own opinion, who do you think was actually the first to be created?

    What would be your basis for believing this? Or rather what convinces you that this is the case?
  11. Burner

    Adam vs Eve, in your own opinion, who do you think was actually the first to be created?

    Are you saying god was human (or human-like) and evolved to a "higher being"?
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    Adam vs Eve, in your own opinion, who do you think was actually the first to be created?

    Doubt isnt the issue. Your communication is lacking. What does does self actualization till you become elements of the universe mean? I understand all those words separately but in the way you are putting them together is meaningless for me. So i am asking you to explain it plainly so i may...
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    Adam vs Eve, in your own opinion, who do you think was actually the first to be created?

    I did ask for logic. But some your questions are so loosely worded and make little to no sense I have difficulty answering them.
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    Adam vs Eve, in your own opinion, who do you think was actually the first to be created?

    I literally dont know what this means man. Im honestly trying to answer your questions to see where this is line of questioning is going but i dont know what you are asking. As far as i can tell, i am entirely made up of different atoms, hydrogen, oxygen, carbon etc and those are part of the...
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    Adam vs Eve, in your own opinion, who do you think was actually the first to be created?

    I dont understand what you mean. You need to elaborate. As far as i know and can tell, im indistinguishable from every other person on the planet (except for my rugged handsomeness.)
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    Adam vs Eve, in your own opinion, who do you think was actually the first to be created?

    If i discover something, i will show people like "hey everybody, look at this thing i just found". And other people can look at it and we can all agree we on its specific characteristics and do all manner of tests and try to explain what it is and how it came about.
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    Adam vs Eve, in your own opinion, who do you think was actually the first to be created?

    Your god existed before the bible did he not? If one precedes the other how are you not able to give a coherent definition of the former? If you must use the bible to define god, then you are literally defining him into existence. He is dependant on the book. So let's put it another (and perhaps...
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    Adam vs Eve, in your own opinion, who do you think was actually the first to be created?

    In all all seriousness. Yes please. But please, dont say he is the creator of things, omnipotent omnipresent, the alpha and omega etc. Because I will counter with "how do you know?" If your answer is the bible, then that wont cut it. Because in order for me to believe the bible is the inspired...
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    Adam vs Eve, in your own opinion, who do you think was actually the first to be created?

    Here is where your analogy falls apart. i can empirically (physically that is by use of measurements of temp/humidity etc) to show you that in one year we have not had any snow in nairobi and the opposite in Antarctica. Things not controlled and easily testable by other people to reach the same...
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    Adam vs Eve, in your own opinion, who do you think was actually the first to be created?

    Before you can say what traits he has, you must be able to properly define him, demonstrate/show he exists, then ascribe traits that he would have. You cant work backwards. We cant take anything for granted here because every step needs to be rock-solid for your case to hold up in not just...
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